Comments on: JOHN KIRIAKOU: Cellphone Seizures & the Courts https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/ Volume 29, Number 360— Wednesday, December 25, 2024 Wed, 25 Dec 2024 04:56:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Ed https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499236 Wed, 25 Dec 2024 04:56:38 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499236 I don’t take a phone or a laptop. I upload everything on my phone and laptop to a storage account someplace and buy a throw-away phone and the cheapest laptop in the country where I have to be. On those I download my data, and send text messages with my temp number to the people who need to contact me. On my way back I do the same, reset the phone to factory, run a good memory/drive cleaner and then give he things to a kid on the street.

You can also take an empty laptop from home with you on the trip, where only the operating system is on plus a browser, if you don’t want to buy a throw-away one.

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By: Otto https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499226 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 18:54:22 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499226 “You have a kill switch on your phone. That is suspicious and also illegal so you are now under arrest”.

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By: Duane M https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499221 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 15:31:13 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499221 It is natural that the erosion of civil liberties begins with an offense like pornography — a moral vice. Only a terrible person with sexual deviance would have illegal images on his phone! And only a terrible person would defend his right to reject the inspection of his phone!

It’s a short step from there to, “If you don’t have anything illegal on your phone, you won’t mind if we inspect it.”

And just one more short step to, “We have inspected your phone and discovered shocking images of child pornography. You’re going to jail for a long time.” Because, once the authorities have access to your electronics, it’s as easy to plant illegal material as it is to discover illegal material.

I’m not defending Marcos Mendez. I’m just pointing out that any one of us could find himself/herself accused of a similar crime if/when it were politically convenient. Someone like Mr. Kiriakou should be especially careful, as he is already a political target. But it could happen to anyone.

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By: Sick and tired https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499210 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 12:48:21 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499210 In reply to MeMyself.

Nor does mine

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By: Vera Gottlieb https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499209 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:39:53 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499209 Long time missing and wanted: honesty, integrity, truthfulness, morality and compassion.

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By: Rafi Simonton https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499207 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 05:48:45 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499207 What if the govt doesn’t like your opinions? Well, all who’ve paid the price to tell the truth would know about that. Very unlikely to become any more benevolent in the future if the past is any guide. Even the supposedly more liberal D administrations haven’t been exactly favorable considering a right to privacy.

Access to your doctor, psychologist, attorney, pastor, co-workers, librarian, and grocer? Great!!! Let’s find out about your dissenter contacts, the suspicious books you read, and that weird foreign food you eat. You anti-American you.

All that blather about murky, hypothetical ‘rights’ when our security is at stake. By “our” of course we mean keeping the powerful and important protected. You lessers need only defer and obey. After all, if you’re not guilty of wrongdoing, how could you possibly object to constant monitoring?

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By: Sick and tired https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499205 Tue, 24 Dec 2024 02:45:43 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499205 A few years TSA demanded I give them my cell phone during a routine security check for a domestic flight. I was so shocked and confused I complied and didn’t dare question the “authorities”. They appeared to scan it on some sort of device in front of me. I’ve always suspected this was a completely false set- up designed to expose potential troublemakers. I was in my late 50s at the time, a blonde “white” woman, and mid level manager in corporate America.

I was pulled out of the boarding line for a physical search twice for flights on a business trip. I was traveling with two older white males who were not singled out. I
assume I was chosen so TSA could deny any racial or ethnic profiling. But annoying and intimidating none the less.

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By: Joy https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499203 Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:04:06 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499203 Wouldn’t it be possible, if you are visiting another country, to buy a new cell phone, use a browser you haven’t used before, set up an new email account with a different service, which you give to close family and friends. (Of course, you would have to not be using the built-in, default browser, at home, or you will still have it on your new phone, so you’d have to use a different login name.) Leave the old phone at home, and go with only that new phone.

If you chose, you could then download the usual browser, after having passed through immigration, and reload your regular content.

On your return, couldn’t you take steps, such as clearing the browser history, and deleting that browser entirely from your new phone before getting to the immigration procedures? Depending on the cost of the new phone, you could even sell it, gift it, or throw it away, in the other country. Your old phone should be where you left it, with everything still on it, in a place where a warrant would be required to seize it.

Just asking.

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By: MeMyself https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499202 Mon, 23 Dec 2024 22:32:45 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499202 In reply to The Forester.

Al Capone seconds this motion!

Way too funny if it wasn’t so sad.

“Off subject a trend I have been noticing is that any browser doesn’t auto refresh CN pages, when I come to visit ”

Hmmm…?
nefarious I presume /?

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By: The Forester https://consortiumnews.com/2024/12/23/john-kiriakou-cell-phone-seizures-the-courts/#comment-499199 Mon, 23 Dec 2024 20:45:07 +0000 https://consortiumnews.com/?p=121627#comment-499199 Everything except the camel’s @$$ is already in the tent, so expect the worst. Of particular concern is Con-leaning LE has been known to plant evidence if they can’t get a ‘bad guy’ any other way.

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